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I'm confused about the order status. Should it be '3 - rejected', instead of '4 - held', since orders will be rejected if the PDT safeguard is triggered? Or are they actually held at Robinhood? Any idea what reason string Robinhood will send if the rejection is due to attempting to buy high volatility stocks? How do you get Robinhood instant?
Is there a way without inviting someone else? I don't feel comfortable asking people to sign up without trying it out fully myself. Thanks for the question. You can find out how to get Robinhood Instant through the information page here: Unfortunately, I do not know if there is a way beyond what's stated on that page. I would suggest contacting Robinhood for further questions on that subject. At some point, I'll take a crack at writing a Robinhood-ready algo and post it for review.
As I mentioned above, I'd still be concerned that the order rejection reason strings aren't fully documented and controlled i. Have you triggered them, to see see exactly what Robinhood is sending?
By the way, in your post above, you provide the string 'igh volatility stock'. Did you mean 'High volatility stock' or 'high volatility stock'? You bring up a good point, we're in the process of updating our documentation now for these order status reason strings.
That being said, we do our best to notify our users when things change, especially with something like an order rejection reason. And the strings can change from High to high so the igh was intended. This is especially important if you have an IB margin account. Thanks Seong, just to clarify; do I need to change anything if I only get into long positions and I have a no margin account. Hello Everyone; I am new to the trading and this is what happened today. I only have 2 Days trade in my account.
I bought the same stock twice today. I am not sure why is that because according to Robinhood it should be 4 transactions to be designated as day trader, and I am doing my 3ed? Maybe, did you make two trades on your first day too? Have a look here:. If not, welcome to wacky world of trying to understand what-the-heck did my online brokerage do to me now.
Open a support ticket and sit back. If they can explain it, please post. Hani, the key word here is may probably as a safeguard warning. From what i understand, they will actually disqualify your order and cancel it if it does trigger day-trader status. Thank you guys for your reply. I know about the 4 day trader policy. The problem is I only have 2 and I should be able to do the 3rd before I get the message. I bought shares, then I a bought shares of the same stock.
So, when I tried to sale back the it intiated this message, which I believe it shouldn't. I would take this up with their support staff and see if they can see what's going on with your account! Thank you Seong; I took your advice and sent them an email. Even though, I don't think it will fix anything. The harm is done already. If you make four day trades in five trading days, you will be flagged as a pattern day trader for the next 90 days.
I'm wondering how Robinhood treats the case of buying the same stock twice in one day, and then selling it once, that same day? If instead one would buy the same stock twice, and then place two separate sell orders, it would be two day trades, right? On the same page referenced above, they give an example of what they'd consider a single day trade:.
The next day you make one day trade by buying shares in two orders and then you sell shares of ABC in one order. You might check yours, to see if it might explain your experience. I'm new here, and trying to conquer a very steep learning curve. Would it be possible to: If anyone would be so gracious as to help, it would be very much appreciated.
This base would serve as a platform for further learning and experimentation. You still have some constraints, as I understand. You can't "day trade" as described on the FAQ link. There seems to be a lot of misinformation regarding instant.
In the past three months I've personally day traded the same security including leveraged ETF's, i. Order fills generally process at the same speed as normal robinhood orders seconds but even if an order is only partially filled, cash from the sale seems to always be immediately available for re-investment.
Honestly, I am currently just learning the environment, and have little coding experience. I've read most of the algorithms on the site, truly brilliant stuff and grasp most of the pieces, but cannot yet effectively put them together. Prior restriction due to commission costs seems to dictate most code on the site be geared toward daily or weekly trading.
As the concept of instant is so new there are almost no existing platforms on which to clone, experiment and build an intraday strategy such as this for robinhood. As a noob, I'm trying to get better every day, I am humbly and respectfully asking anyone willing, to create a framework so I, and others can explore this further.
That was the most inspiring thing I read all month. I usually don't post anything, but I had to this time to acknowledge your desire to keep learning.
I noticed Quantopian about two months ago and I thought I could learn everything in a day. Turns out, after two months I am still stuck as always.
I think the best place to start is keep seeing what other the community is doing because nobody really knows what they are doing individually. I downgraded from instant back to a cash account just for the benefit you mentioned I can now do that again with the cash account as long as I use a third of my money at a time.
Nice to hear from you. If "your ability to day trade is truly infinite" then there is no special framework required for you to use Robinhood as your broker, unless I'm missing something except that Robinhood doesn't support shorting.
Perhaps framework was the wrong language. My hope was was that someone with more advanced coding ability would be willing to modify the original algo to run roughly as I described above, and post it here as a building block. Being able to compare the original and an updated version side by side would go a long way to help understand how to make further changes to schedule function, handle data, and the order logic, etc.
And then hopefully apply different indicators to this code, or use it as a basis for testing other existing strategies to see how they perform intraday. Kind of asking to stand on the shoulders of giants here, but the desire to learn is genuine.
Well, I'd start a new discussion thread. Even if you can't code, you should be able to describe precisely what you want to do, in words and pseudo-code. If you do a good job at this, then the coding will follow easily and somebody might do it for you. Aside from a few basic limitations, Q is a blank sheet of paper.
Hi guys, dying to get into robinhood instant. Why have multiple Robinhood accounts when you can just use an algo to allocate money for different strategies? This should prevent day trades from occuring unless there is a wild swing in that day, but then again the variables would have to be just right for this to happen. Hi everyone, I am new on Q. I was wondering if there is any way to specify initial capital allocation for algorithms.
This way one can trade more than one algo on say Robinhood. This is what I am interested in: Let me know if there is any other way of doing it.
Sorry, something went wrong. Try again or contact us by sending feedback. While we highly recommend reading the full documentation , here are a few highlights about Robinhood Instant: Robinhood Instant is subject to pattern day trading rules.
Please insure that your algorithm accounts for pattern day trading rules before attempting to live trade it. As a safeguard, your order will be rejected if it's attempting to place an order that will designate you as a pattern day trader. There was an error loading this backtest. Backtest from to with initial capital.
Returns 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. Alpha 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. Beta 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. Sharpe 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. Sortino 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. Volatility 1 Month 3 Month 6 Month 12 Month. We have migrated this algorithm to work with a new version of the Quantopian API. The code is different than the original version, but the investment rationale of the algorithm has not changed.
We've put everything you need to know here on one page. This is a simple tactical asset allocation model that uses simple timing rules to prevent extreme drawdowns and volatility. GTAA consists of five global asset classes: US stocks, foreign stocks, bonds, real estate and commodities The basics of the strategy go like this: The updated whitepaper can also be found: We will not be entering into a trade on the first day.
For more information, please visit: In this case, we want it to check every day if it's the first trade date when you first launch the algo and do it 60 minutes after market open.
AAPL , your positions in that security will not be taken into account when calculating order amounts. Calculate dollar amount of each position in context. All of these lessons I will certainly use today, many years after I stopped day trading. This applies not just to trading but everything. You could be married for 10 years and the next thing you know you are divorced and you would not have predicted that.
You could be healthy all your life and drink your vegetables and exercise and reduce stress, and a year later you could be dead from cancer. You can always seek to increase the odds in your favor. But certainly a path to unhappiness is thinking the future can be predicted and controlled. A hundred percent of opportunities in life are created because people are uncertain about almost everything in their lives. We are constantly trying to close the enormous gap between the things we are certain about and the things we are uncertain about, and almost every invention, product, Internet service, book, whatever has been created to help us close that gap.
Sometimes this is hard. If your husband betrays and leaves you, you often feel like crawling on the floor and burning all the self-help books. You can say it something inside of yourself. Some people take too many risks and they go bankrupt. This happened to me. But then I would take big losses and that would wipe out all my profits. The key is that you can take larger and larger risks if you work on better and better ways to deal with those risks. For instance, I might be able to risk marrying someone if I know she is not a hard-core drug addict who regularly betrays the people she is close to.
I can risk driving without a license if I always stay below the speed limit I know this is a stupid risk, but still. How can I get that job? When I was raising money to day trade, I probably contacted over 1, people.
When I was starting an Internet business I started over a dozen Internet businesses and watched all of them fail but one.
When I was trying to sell my Internet business I contacted over a dozen companies although Google broke my heart — damn you Google! When I wanted to get married, I went on lots of dates.
She would only go to tea with guys. Within the first 20 seconds you know if you are attracted. So keep it to a tea. But this is just a mental bias. Say no to it. Day trading pulls everything out of you. It sucks the soul out of your body, blends it up, and then explodes. So you have to take care of yourself. And obviously, this applies to everything else in life.
Every day, what small thing can you do to become a slightly better you? The only way to survive is to laugh. Guy makes a trade. The market goes against him. And then he loses all his money and goes crazy. The market is never crazy. The world is never crazy. And I will go so far as to say that your girlfriend who just lied to you about where she spent the night is not crazy. I only care about you. Good and bad days happen. But life is about a billion little moments that add up to all the things around you.
If you let one of those moments have too much control then you are bound to be mostly miserable. I was mostly miserable during the period I was day trading.